I think there is certainly merit to the low carb Rob zombie eat grain not brain shirt. But I also feel like Taubes makes the wrong argument. Energy balance is very well proven, in my opinion at least. But there is certainly a mechanism which both Taubes and Fung both seem to ignore, that in my mind could easily rectify both the energy balance and insulin models. And that is appetite. A low carb diet, or fasting, with the goal of increasing insulin sensitivity could, at least as I see it, lead to your body better-regulating insulin, leptin, and ghrelin to the point where your appetite and your energy expenditure can become more in line with each other, and more so, become in line after weight loss.
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I haven’t read Taubes book, but I read Fung’s, and I feel they are both on the insulin model heavily, and from Fung’s, one of the largest issues is weight regain after weight loss. From his hypothesis, a person’s hormones are going to cause hunger to get back to there old set point, but maybe the set point can get moved via low carb dieting or fasting, but the method of increased insulin sensitivity. I think there could be merit to the model, but I don’t think its proven. But I think Taubes and Rob zombie eat grain not brain shirt both make the mistake of saying energy balance is wrong and doesn’t matter. I think the two models have to be merged and rectified for them to have any validity. I’m sure that’s somewhat true. But the difference is probably pretty small. And balance can be achieved regardless.
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There should have been proper opening arguments along with Rob zombie eat grain, not brain shirt that they disagreed on to function as a framework for the discussion. Joe should’ve moderated it more like a real debate. Yes and no. If you produce no insulin, you can’t store fat or gain muscle normally. That is true. But if you produce more insulin, that doesn’t necessarily mean you will tend toward storing more fat. Higher insulin in a calorie deficit will lead to the same net loss of fat as low insulin when calories are equated. The energy balance and requirements of the cells, tissues, organs, and overall body is what drives net fat deposition or oxidation. That’s not necessarily true, insulin can have a tissue-specific effect. I don’t agree with that conclusion. That Stephan is not a polished speaker is not the same thing as making shit up.